Stand and Deliver, Prince Charming and Ant Rap
I asked Marco about Stand and Deliver, the single that went to number one and really put the Ants at the top of the world. Marco is in italics.
Stand and Deliver: Who wrote what? How was it written?
Adam Ant/Marco Pirroni
It was written one morning in kensington
The demo sounds like the complete song minus drums- was that the first demo or were there more before that?
Only demo we did
Who drums on it, is it Terry and Merrick or just Merrick or just Terry?
It's a LINN drum machine set on a preset (I meant the single but nevermind hehe!)
(Side question- did both Merrick and Terry drum on every song on Kings and PC albums?)
No Chris mostly did the basic rhythm stuff and Terry did the overdubs
It's Adam on bass isn't it, not Gary or the departed Kevin?
No it's Adam
Stand and Deliver went to number one- tell me how you felt when that happened.
Devastated! our cred blown for ever!
Beat My Guest- did you ever hear the old Ants play it?
Dunno I must have done I suppose, it wasn't one of my favs
Who's idea to slow it down?
We had never heard the original so we didn't know it was slowed down
Who played bass on Beat My Guest?
Kevin Money (that well known spelling mistake)
Was it another of your favourite Ant songs?
Not really, Adam wanted to do it and we all thought it came out pretty good
The Ants now were starting to get much bigger fame wise- how did that make you feel?
I never really had time to think about it, but it all seemed natural to me,
my phone book got bigger as we needed to employ more people, then these people needed assitants and so on.
But at that time I just wanted more and more, if Roxy Music had personal caterers and valets then we wanted them,
we thought bigger is better which it was at the time, but later it got so big that we were slaves of our own creation, so it was time to stop.
But basically I loved it, but I wouldn't do it again.
Did Adam come to you with the complete song idea or did he just say "It's called Stand and Deliver, how should it go?"
I had taped a film called "Where's Jack' staring Tommy Steele of the telly coz I knew it would spark off some ideas in Adam's head, although I'm sure he'd seen it before,
and a few days later, he started talking about an idea for a video which later turned out to be the exact opening scene to the Stand vid.
'Genius or idiot" was a phrase we both used when either of us came up with something that was totally stupid but utterly brilliant.
Although its nothing like the film I can see how Adam took the basic feel and "pop'ized them;
he went to make a cup of tea (we still made our own tea in those days) and by the time he came back I had the gallopy 4 chord sequence,
but I didn't know if it was a verse or a chorus, and we started to organize it and about an hour later it was done except for the refined final lyrics and the come all ye faithful guitar solo which came about coz I tried to think of something that wouldn't fit at all.
Me in normal text, Marco italics.
Prince Charming: How much of this song did you write?
Hard to say who did what on this one, it was very "organic".
Did Adam discuss the idea of the song with you?
He had a vague lyrical idea about "Bonnie Prince Charlie", bagpipers walking thru the mist was mentioned and I was thinking of the dream sequence in "Casino Royale" although I'm sure Adam had different pictures in his head.
What did you want to achieve with the song?
More fame and fortune and to try to get something odd but pop to NO.1
Do you think that as a song it works on it's own or is it part of the video, in effect a soundtrack to the video?
I'm not sure, the video didn't come first with this one or if it did it was going very different.
What did you think of the video for PC? It's one of the fans favorites.
Well I liked it at the time .
What did you think of another change in costume for Adam?
I thought good it's about time, and I liked the shoulders on the jacket.
Were you too busy being in the middle of all of this to think much about it all?
Thinking about it is what I was busy with!
Prince Charming is the beginning of not being all Burundi, did you both think it was time to do something else?
Yeah that's why it has only one big drum instead of loads of different drums
Where did the influences for Prince Charming come from?
Moari chants, (yes war canoe), bagpipes, a key chamge every verse inspired by "My Generation" ,"Lord jim" and Mo tucker type minimal yet big backbeat ,acoustic guitar as chord hook.
Christian D'or: Another old Ants song, do you have anything to say about it?
Not really I always liked it tho.
Me normal text, Marco italics.
Which came first, the album version or the single version?
The Album version.
How much did you have to do with Antrap writing wise?
Well I thought it was a good idea at the time.
What was the idea behind it?
Does the word "rap' ring any bells?
Who's idea was it to release it as a single?
Maurice obersteins .
Did you enjoy pretending to be Liberace in the video?
Why is the album version different to the single version?
We just wanted to make it a bit different
Friends- any thoughts on that song?
I always loved that song it was weird, funny, catchy and fun.
Why is the live version so different and how did that come about?
It just developed that way in rehearshals and we all liked it.
What's the real story behind it being chosen as a single? At the
time Adam claimed it was his choice to see how such a strange single would
do (to see if he could get away with releasing anything).. But in later
years it was claimed that it was CBS's choice.
There was a feeling that releasing "Picasso" was a bit of a cop out, which I agreed with at the time.
Ok, I am guessing you didn't have very much to do writing wise?
Strangely although I don't like it I'm loath to admit I didnt have that much to do with it (typical guitar players ego).
What DID you contribute if anything, or was it just Adam's baby?
I did write some music for it which became the live version, but it got ditched (once Adam's got an idea in his head...)
Did you feel pretty lucky in that Adam already had a load of songs that could be used as B sides, you never had to purposely write a b side?
I guess so, I never thought of it like that, I just really really liked those songs, at one point Adam was thinking of ditching them entirely!
Was B Side Babies (the US cd) the album Adam said in the early 80s he always wanted to make (of all the old Ant songs) or was it "just" a compilation cd?
Nah it was compilation suggested by Sony US.